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SURVEY SAYS: Does Real Estate Have a Place in Your
Retirement Plan?
August 12, 2004 (PLANSPONSOR.com) - We've all read
any number of surveys (including our own) about the
burgeoning number of investment choices, and we frequently
see indications as to the relative asset allocations of
participants among those choices.
One option that isn’t much discussed, at least in the
context of 401(k)s and other participant-directed savings
programs, is real estate.
This week we asked readers if their program offered such an
option – and how it has been received.
Perhaps not surprisingly, the vast majority (nearly
80%
) said their program does not – or does not currently –
offer real estate as a participant directed fund option.
The reasons offered were varied – but mostly centered
around a lack of interest on the part of participants.
One reader noted,
“For the last five years (my personal history) there has
been no discussion about adding this option.
I may bring the subject up in the future, but we
haven’t had any demand from our participants that I
have heard of.”
Those sentiments were echoed by the reader who noted,
“Among my many talks with participants, not one has ever
asked for RE as an option.
Our in house group overseeing the plan would like to
include RE, so perhaps some day it will happen if a better
manager takes over the fund or we are allowed to go outside
the family of current funds.”
However, it wasn’t just a lack of interest on the part of
participants, as noted by the reader who said,
“…I have not heard from our folks that they have an
interest in adding one.
And we have not received any suggestions from our 401(k)
vendor for this type.”
Another noted a recurring dilemma:
“It is hard to strike that balance between providing a
good selection of options and overwhelming the participants
with too many choices….”
Liquidity Concerns
There were readers who had been “burned,” including the
reader who recalled,
“A number of years ago we offered a real estate fund
investment option in our 401(k) plan.
We no longer do and would be very leery of doing it again.
Liquidity is the problem.
We offered units in a real estate equity trust fund
sponsored by a major financial institution.
We (that is, both the plan sponsor and the participants who
elected to invest in the fund) viewed the investment as
long term and recognized the liquidity issue.
We also naively assumed that other investors would do the
same.”
One reader noted,
“We used to have one, but our investment consultants
suggested that for the average participant, the majority of
their investments is the home they own.
Therefore, providing a REIT would allow participants to
overweight real estate in their investment portfolio.”
Others had considered the choice, but as one reader
cautioned,
“I think in three years the plans that now put one of
these funds in their plan will be sorry.
You may have employees asking for it, as they have done
well over the past few years, but you are buying into these
funds at the top of the market.”
Another offered,
“We do not offer real estate investment funds because we
consider them ‘fads’ and we don’t feel those kinds of
choices are appropriate for a retirement plan.
We have had participants ask for them, however, but are not
considering adding them at this time.”
The “Haves”
As for the roughly
21%
who did have the option, reactions were mixed.
One who had added a REIT option earlier his year described
participant allocations to the fund as “healthy.”
Perhaps with good reason, at least according to another
reader who said,
“Our 401K Retirement Plan has offered a real estate fund
since the beginning of our plan many years ago…our real
estate fund has been a ‘steady performer’ through the
recent downturn. Basically, the fund is returning
approximately 8% at the three-, five-, and 10-year
milestones.”
But for most of the respondents who offered insights,
the participant interest appeared to be rather tepid.
One reader noted that of a $12.3 million plan,
“…$85,000 was invested in the real estate option, or
0.7%.”
Said another,
“Fifteen out of 70 current employees, or 21%, are
invested in that fund, which comprises 2% of total plan
assets.
Our plan has 21 funds to choose from.”
Another reader observed,
“Our plan rolled out a REIT offering in January 2004.
The fund is not very popular, holding less than 3% of plan
assets at the time I write this.”
Another reader, whose plan had offered the option since
2003, said it
“…has less than 1% of the total fund assets.”
Some readers without the option are, nonetheless,
contemplating the addition.
One noted,
“Our plan doesn’t currently offer a real estate
option, but we are looking at adding one.”
Another said,
“It has not been discussed yet, but I think it should
be.”
One frustrated plan sponsor complained,
“NO, but this is a damn shame!
I sit on the Investment Policy Committeee, and I am begging
my colleagues to add a low cost REIT fund.
It would add good beta when compared to equities and
provide better diversification within a total asset
allocation model.
Problem is, most participants don’t understand asset
allocation, so our IPC is afraid to offer REITs, believing
participants will go for returns only. Like this is not
already a problem within our equities?
Yikes, the flat world thinkers!”
But this week’s
Editor’s Choice
goes to the reader who said,
“We considered offering a real estate investment fund,
but rejected the idea when we realized our investment
advisor didn’t seem to have the necessary knowledge to
advise our employees on the fund – I’m not sure how
much longer he will be our investment advisor.”
Thanks to
everyone who participated in our survey!
I have not thought of real estate for our plan.
Probably a good idea.
Personally, I'm waiting for a cute little Florida
cottage to be finished so I can retire to it and stop
worrying about everyone else's money.
Yes our Plans added a REIT option earlier this year.
Participant allocation to it was healthy.
1.
Do we offer real estate as an investment option in our DC
plan?
No
2.
Have we thought about adding it?
Yes
3.
Has our third party administrator thought about adding it?
If so, they kept it a secret.
We do not offer a real estate investment fund and I have
not heard from our folks that they have an interest in
adding one.
And we have not received any suggestions from our 401(k)
vendor for this type.
No, we don't have a RE option in our 401(k).
Our investment committee is revisiting our options now to
make sure we have good coverage of the core asset classes.
I'd like to see us add asset classes like emerging
markets and real estate, but I don't know how it will
go.
It is hard to strike that balance between providing a good
selection of options and overwhelming the participants with
too many choices...
Our plan does not offer a real estate option.
It is has not been discussed yet, but I think it should
be.
Our 401K Retirement Plan has offered a Real Estate Fund
since the beginning of our Plan many years ago.
You are correct in your article, our Real Estate Fund has
been a "steady performer" through the recent
downturn. Basically, the fund is returning approximately 8%
at the 3,5, and 10 year milestones.
Our plan is 12.3 million and at year end (12/31),
$85,000 was invested in the real estate option or
0.7%. The majority of our investments 9.2 million are
invested in 5 lifestyle funds
Our plan has 15 investment choices.
We do not offer Re as one.
It was considered however our provider only has one RE fund
and it has consistently ranked among the bottom in the
sector so we opted not to include it among the offering.
Among my many talks with participants not one has ever
asked for RE as an option.
Our in house group overseeing the plan would like to
include RE so perhaps some day it will happen if a better
manager takes over the fund or we are allowed to go outside
the family of current funds.
We do not offer real estate investment funds because we
consider them "fads" and we don't feel those
kinds of choices are appropriate for a retirement plan.
We have had participants ask for them, however, but are not
considering adding them at this time.
Our plan does not offer a real estate fund or REIT.
Yes, our 401(k) plan offers a real estate fund as of
1/1/04.
No Real Estate fund.
We used to have one, but our investment consultants
suggested that for the average participant, the majority of
their investments is the home they own.
Therefore, providing a REIT would allow participants to
overweight real estate in their investment portfolio.
In addition, the concentration of a REIT involves more
risk.
Our large cap blend fund has some exposure to real estate,
but with less risk.
Our plan doesn't currently offer a real estate
option, but we are looking at adding one.
Yes, our plan does offer a Real Estate investment
option.
15 out of 70 current employees or 21% are invested in that
fund, which comprises 2% of total plan assets.
Our plan has 21 funds to choose from.
Our plan rolled out a REIT offering in January, 2004.
The fund is not very popular, holding less than 3% of plan
assets at the time I write this.
NO but this is a damn shame!
I sit on the Investment Policy Committee and I am begging
my colleagues to add a low cost REIT fund.
It would add good beta when compared to equities and
provide better diversification within a total asset
allocation model.
Problem is most participants don't understand asset
allocation, so our IPC is afraid to offer REITs believing
participants will go for returns only. Like this is not
already a problem within our equities?
Yikes the flat world thinkers!
We have the Nationwide Resource Platform with 700 funds
including several Real Estate funds.
There is one real estate fund in our core portfolio and
plan participants are free to use the fund window to choose
any of the available RE funds for their personal
portfolio.
We don't offer a real estate investment fund and to
my knowledge we have never considered one.
Our plan does offer a real estate investment option -
currently only 3% of the total portfolio is invested in
that option.
We do not include REITs in our fund listing but have
discussed it.
Two years ago our investment advisor demonstrated the total
lack of correlation the REIT has to various stocks and
bonds and sold me (so I immediately bought some personally
with some IRA money) but the investment committee decided
that the investment was too sector concentrated and risky
to allow our rather uninformed investors to have access to
real estate in their pension plans.
We do not have a real estate option in our 401k
Retirement Plan.
We have weighed the pros and cons of adding such an option,
but do not feel that it would be a good fit at this
time.
Yes we do have
a Real Estate Fund
since 2003 and has less than 1% of the total fund assests
.
We considered offering a real estate investment fund,
but rejected the idea when we realized our investment
advisor didn't seem to have the necessary knowledge to
advise our employees on the fund - I'm not sure how
much longer he will be our investment advisor.
We're an investment advisor to numerous 401(k)
plans, including both large and small plans. We've
recommended REIT funds to clients for about a decade, both
as plan menu options, and in model portfolios that we
construct. Approximately one-third of our client plans
offer a REIT fund, and these generally tend to be smaller
plans--$20MM and down. The larger plans look more to what
other similar employers are doing, and are less likely to
offer REITs, since most large plans don't offer REIT
funds.
I'm reminded of a call I took in 1999 from a
participant's wife. We were advisors to the plan, and
managed model portfolios that included a REIT fund. She was
livid that we were including a REIT fund in the Aggressive
Portfolio--she couldn't see how a REIT could be part of
an "Aggressive" allocation. I told her that REITs
provided diversification, and that "Aggressive"
didn't mean "Foolhardy". She countered that
REITs had obviously underperformed broad market indexes,
such as the S&P 500, for the past several years. I
replied that this simply indicated that REITs were in fact
effective diversifiers. When she asked if there was any way
for her husband to invest in a model portfolio that
didn't include REITs, I flat out said no--he could
transfer to the S&P 500 index fund, but that all our
portfolios included REITs. I don't know if
the transfer ever occurred, but if it did, I bet it led to
some marital strife over the next few years!
A number of years ago we offered a real estate fund
investment option in our 401(k) plan.
We no longer do and would be very leery of doing it again.
Liquidity is the problem.
We offered units in a real estate equity trust fund
sponsored by a major financial institution.
We (that is, both the plan sponsor and the participants who
elected to invest in the fund) viewed the investment as
long term and recognized the liquidity issue.
We also naively assumed that other investors would do the
same.
However, a number of major pension funds also investing in
trust were not, as it turned out, looking at the fund as a
long-term investment.
During a "down" real estate market several of
these large DB pension funds tried to pull huge chunks of
money out the trust, thereby forcing a freeze on the trust
that resulted in a lengthy, arduous and expensive legal
process to liquidate the entire fund to the advantage of
none except the lawyers, accountants et al.
We offer it through our mutual fund window and only 1
participant out of the 100 we have uses it.
Thanks for this daily dose of useful info!
Yes, our retirement plan has a publicly traded REIT
portfolio available to participants.
We do not offer a Real Estate fund at this time and
currently have no designs on it.
I think in three years the plans who now put one of these
funds in their plan will be sorry.
You may have employees asking for it as they have done well
over the past few years but you are buying into these funds
at the top of the market.
In 1999 we had employees dying to get involved in a
Technology fund at the top of that market.
In the last four or five years we have not had anyone
suggesting that we add a technology fund to our line up.
It is a danger to continually chase the hot sector of the
market and I don't think plan administrators should be
fueling this behavior.
It is exactly the type of behavior we caution employees
about in our educational meetings ………….and you know how
well those work.
Our plan does NOT offer a real-estate fund or other
alternative. It is one of the reasons I'm looking into
the 'personal brokerage account' option for my
assets in the plan.
We do not offer a Real Estate option.
For the last five years (my personal history) there has
been no discussion about adding this option.
I may bring the subject up in the future, but we
haven't had any demand from our participants that I
have heard of.