SURVEY SAYS: Time Off for Thanksgiving 2017

For the first time in my career, I work for a company that provides both Thanksgiving Day and the day after as paid holidays.

Last week, I asked NewsDash readers, “What days off does your employer provide for Thanksgiving and are you asking for more?”

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More than half of responding readers (52.2%) said they get Thanksgiving Day and the day after off, while 21.1% get Thanksgiving Day only. Twenty percent reported they leave early the day before and get both Thanksgiving and the day after off, and 4.4% get Thanksgiving, the day before and the day after off. The same percentage 1.1% chose “Leave early the day before and Thanksgiving Day,” and “The whole week.”

Most (55.6%) of respondents have not asked for any more days off for the Thanksgiving holiday. Slightly more than 12% have asked for the day before, 6.7% each chose “the day after” and “the day before and after,” and 11.1% have asked for the whole week off. Among the “other” responses, one reader said he/she gets Tuesday through Friday from the company, so he/she asks for Monday. Others said they ask for Tuesday and the day before Thanksgiving or they ask for the following Monday.

In verbatim comments some said working the day after Thanksgiving is productive for them, while one said the opposite. One reader said everyone should get Thanksgiving and the day after. A few readers noted that even though they get the day off, they still work. Some readers explained that their reasons for taking an extra day were not just to have a day of rest or fun, like the reader who said children are out of school the day before. Editor’s Choice goes to the reader who said: “I can turn 3 days of PTO into 9 straight days of vacation with Thanksgiving and that Friday off. That’s a value play!”

Thank you to everyone who participated in the survey!

Verbatim

Our company has offered both Thanksgiving and the day after as paid holidays since the 1970s. I take additional vacation days that week based on how much cooking I have to do!

A flawed management: puts pressure on workers to come in even on holidays.

It’s very nice having both Thanksgiving Day and the day after off. Who doesn’t like a four day weekend.

I’ll be “on vacation” the day before and after. However, I’ll be working from home at least part of each day. But, the key there is I’ll be working “from home”. Happy Thanksgiving!

It’s amazing to have 4 days off without needing to use time off. It’s like a mini vacation whether we travel or not.

Not a whole lot of work gets done on the Friday after Thanksgiving despite people’s best efforts to “catch up” that day.

I can turn 3 days of PTO into 9 straight days of vacation with Thanksgiving and that Friday off. That’s a value play!

I have previously only had Thanksgiving off (financial world), but now working at a school I have Tuesday-Friday off. It’s like an early Christmas… and I’m very thankful!

Thanksgiving is an awesome holiday. I love having the day after the holiday off as well. It allows for travel time, time to recover from cooking, guests, and cleaning.

Best holiday. No decorating or gift buying, just good eats and get to sleep it off next day!

I think that the Friday after should also be part of the holiday in a law firm.

Everyone should get thanksgiving and the day after- But now we have retail which has EXPLODED Saturday could turn into black Friday and everyone could give Thanks that the early Americans were survivors!

It’s great to have a 3 day work week!

It there is to be a day off after a holiday, it makes more sense to me to have the day after Christmas rather than Thanksgiving.

We had the day after as a paid day off because the building wouldn’t provide air for just our company. Then we were bought by a bank and the day off went away.

My husband is a teacher and gets the whole week off, so I usually take Wednesday as a vacation day to supplement our company holidays of Thanksgiving and the day after.

Black Friday should be a national holiday.

Since I work for a Federal agency, I get Thanksgiving Day as a Federal holiday, but I must use 8 hours of annual leave (vacation time) to take off the day following.

Daycare mirrors the public school holidays, so I also need off the day before.

I really appreciate having a five day break at Thanksgiving. It is really a gift.

Our families are scattered throughout the U.S., so my husband and I typically spend the Thanksgiving Holiday with each other or friends. Very low key!

Day after Thanksgiving was traded for Columbus Day in collective bargaining agreement

The office is open on the day after Thanksgiving, and I hate using a vacation day for it. It’s so quiet and we usually get let go early. It’s not guaranteed though, as is leaving early the day before. Depends on which manager is here!

We usually leave in early afternoon Wednesday and have Thursday and Friday off. Our company also provides two work days off for both Christmas and New Year’s. Most years we end up with two four-day weekends. It’s a nice perk and minimizes the vacation days needed to end up with a long break.

I’m thankful for my days off!

Since the stock market is open, our business must be open as well on the day after Thanksgiving. We do get to close early though!

Even if you are “off”, you are expected to be “on”

I like to travel to be with family on Thanksgiving, so I routinely request vacation for the day before and day after as well as the Monday after.

I think the extra day off really is a great way for employers to get the most out of their employees. Family time is important and so is safe travel – the employers are putting their employees first!

Appreciated.

Our holidays follow the NYSE!

In the past, at a different employer, I’ve had to work the day after Thanksgiving (in a rotation) to cover potential client calls. Not all departments with client contact had the same rule. I was one of only about four people on our floor of close to 100 people who worked that day, and I never received a client call. Most of the clients are probably taking the day off.

Having Thanksgiving and the day after off is a nice mini-break.

If the stock market closed the day after Thanksgiving we would also close.

Thursday plus Friday has been typical at most of my employers. Some were Thursday only, but almost everyone used a vacation day on Friday. Current employer usually allows early dismissal on Wednesday, although I can’t recall if it happens every year.

get a lot of negative employee response to not providing day after thanksgiving off.

I love having the day after Thanksgiving off. I get a lot of shopping done.

I am a contract employee and the employer I am working for has the leave early the day before (Noon or 3pm, not decided yet), Thanksgiving Day and the day after. Since I am contract, the company that I am contract through only does Thanksgiving Day. So I will not be paid for the leave early the day before and the day after, but I still get to have a nice amount of time off. I am also going to be representing the company I am working for in the Thanksgiving Day parade. What an honor!

Sometimes, they do let us go an hour or two early the day before, but that’s not a given. One year, we were all given Apple pies that day!

It’s a generous benefit to have the day-after Thanksgiving off, for which I am thankful. It probably has a benefit to the company also, that the employees return rested rather than tired and late from trying to squeeze in some shopping.

There are so few people who report to work that without the customary distractions, I accomplish a week’s worth of work in a single day! I always work the following Friday –

Although it’s not a written policy, we generally let employees leave early the day before Thanksgiving.

This should be a day off as many families get together.

The day after Thanksgiving is a holiday for us, but since the stock is open that day, we have minimal staff work that day.

Employer is generous with time off. We get Thanksgiving and the day after. For the first time in my career, I work for a company that provides both President’s Day and Martin Luther King Jr. Day as well. Working in Finance, it is nice to have those two days off in the first quarter of the year.

In Wisconsin a lot of employees have the entire week off. It is gun deer season and many save vacation for that week. 3 days of vacation get you the whole week off.

NOTE: Responses reflect the opinions of individual readers and not necessarily the stance of Strategic Insight or its affiliates.

Retirement Industry People Moves

Industry veteran joins Meeder as SVP; PGIM Investments appoints chief marketing officer to drive global expansion; FS Investments hires national sales manager to oversee sales professionals; and more.

Meeder Investment Management has announced that industry veteran Dan O’Toole has joined the firm as senior vice president and head of third-party distribution. O’Toole brings nearly 30 years of industry and investment management experience to Meeder, a tactical asset allocation strategist known for their suite of investment solutions and model-driven approach to investing.

“We are very excited to have Dan join our leadership team. His experience working with sales and consulting teams who engage with institutions, advisers and clients provides the depth of leadership we need to ensure we can provide the right level of expertise, service and support today and in the future,” says Bob Meeder, president and CEO of Meeder Investment Management. “As we move forward in what has become a highly commoditized investment management world, financial intermediaries are trying to determine what types of investment strategies and solutions will help them address the challenges and opportunities of the current and future financial market environment. Dan’s leadership in these areas will position our firm well as we approach our 45th year in the industry.” 

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O’Toole’s experience spans multiple organizations where he led national sales and consulting teams. Prior to joining Meeder, he served as senior managing director and head of national sales at Horizon Investments and was a senior vice president at AssetMark Investments.

NEXT: PGIM Investments Appoints Chief Marketing Officer to Drive Global Expansion

PGIM Investments has named Sheri Taylor Gilchrist global chief marketing officer, charged with helping to drive the company’s strategy to expand globally. PGIM Investments is the global fund manufacturer of PGIM, the global investment businesses of U.S.-headquartered Prudential Financial.

Gilchrist, former managing director and global head of marketing services at Bank of New York Mellon, is the company’s first-ever global CMO, hired to propel business strategy through initiatives that support its U.S. mutual fund and global UCITS platforms.

At BNY Mellon, Gilchrist was the chief architect behind its marketing intelligence and automation platform, designed to improve the company’s relationship with customers. Earlier, she was global head of relationship marketing at Eaton Vance. She has also held marketing roles at Harte Hanks, Epsilon, Young & Rubicam and American Express.

Gilchrist has a bachelor’s degree in international relations and economics from the University of Melbourne in Australia.

NEXT: FS Investments Hires National Sales Manager to Oversee Sales Professionals

FS Investments has announced that it has hired Ryan Robertson as the firm’s national sales manager reporting directly to Steve DeAngelis, executive vice president and head of distribution. Based in St. Louis, Robertson will oversee all external and internal sales professionals across the firm’s growing distribution channels.

“Ryan’s strong experience leading sales teams and robust relationships with both wire houses and regional broker dealers make him an ideal fit for our expanding distribution platform,” says DeAngelis. “He will guide our sales team’s efforts as we continue to rapidly broaden our product suite and concentrate more and more on the consultative, advisory side of the evolving distribution landscape.”

Prior to joining FS Investments, Robertson was at Goldman Sachs Asset Management for eight years, most recently as a vice president and divisional sales manager for their wire house and regional broker dealer distribution channel.  Prior to joining Goldman, Robertson served as a regional marketing director at Hartford Mutual Funds. Before beginning his career in financial services, Robertson was a professional basketball player both in the NBA where he played for the Sacramento Kings as well as in Europe.

“I look forward to working with the FS sales team and enhancing our position as the industry’s leader in delivering the highest quality alternative investments to investors,” says Robertson. “FS is at an exciting inflection point in its trajectory and I’m eager to get started.”

Robertson currently sits on the advisory board of the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, and previously was the chairman of St. Charles Community College and a board member of Chesterfield Day School. 

NEXT: P-Solve Adds Consultant and Analyst to U.S. Team 


Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance Co., as part of its efforts to boost support of defined benefit (DB) pension plans, has appointed Ken Stapleton as senior institutional investment consultant to support DB plan sponsors.

Stapleton, who has more than 20 years of experience in the financial industry, is responsible for providing investment expertise to MassMutual’s DB clients, including portfolio strategy, asset allocation, risk reduction, investment policy, product selection and day-to-day information and data sharing.  He will support both plan sponsors and financial advisers who serve the DB marketplace.

Stapleton is charged with both helping plan sponsors better manage their DB plans as well as helping financial advisers grow their business. In the process, Stapleton will work with plan sponsors and advisers to provide investment solutions tailored to meet sponsor’s specific goals for their plans.

MassMutual is also expanding its support of the DB marketplace. Recently, the company introduced its PensionSmart Analysis tool, which provides insights into an employer’s issues and opportunities by examining the plan’s current status, funding level, and service structure. MassMutual’s pension experts can then assess the pension plan’s health and make recommendations to the sponsor about appropriate options.

Prior to joining MassMutual, Stapleton worked at Keefe, Bruyette and Woods for 15 years as an institutional equity trader and research analyst.  He also worked an investment banker with Ironwood Capital.  

NEXT: PSCA Joins Membership Division at ARA 

The Plan Sponsor Council of America (PSCA) will join the American Retirement Association (ARA), under the terms of a combination agreement signed by the board of directors of both organizations. 

Effective December 29, 2017, PSCA will become a membership division of the American Retirement Association, alongside the four other retirement organizations that currently comprise the American Retirement Association. These include the American Society of Pension Professionals & Actuaries (ASPPA), the ASPPA College of Pension Actuaries (ACOPA), the National Association of Plan Advisors (NAPA) and the National Tax-deferred Savings Association (NTSA). The American Retirement Association is currently comprised of more than 20,000 members, including business owners, service providers, recordkeepers, attorneys, accountants, actuaries, and retirement plan advisers. 

“PSCA has served plan sponsors since 1947, and that isn’t changing,” says Ken Raskin, chairman of PSCA’s board of directors. “We will continue to provide the same services to members and to be a voice for plan sponsors in Washington. Joining forces significantly improves our ability to elevate important retirement industry issues and better serve our members.” 

“The ARA had been exploring ways to do benefits and services for plan sponsors,” says Brian Graff, CEO of ARA. “Some of our organizations have plan sponsor members, but mostly due to our training programs. Adding voices of plan sponsors to our already loud voices representing the retirement industry will significantly enhance the advocacy efforts of ARA.”

For PSCA, the move represents an opportunity to offer its members access to an expanded array of resources and educational services, while at the same time amplifying the long-standing independent voice of the plan sponsor alongside a wide array of retirement plan industry professions. For the American Retirement Association, the addition of PSCA adds the important voice of plan sponsors and strengthens the organization’s ability to advocate for the private, voluntary retirement system. 

“Throughout its half-century history, our associations have evolved along with America’s retirement system,” notes Graff. “With the addition of this key constituency, the American Retirement Association truly becomes the voice of the nation’s private retirement system.” 

Both PSCA and ARA have been features in this year’s “Who’s Working for You?” PLANSPONSOR series, highlighting industry groups who work with, help and protect retirement plan sponsors.

NEXT: Account Development Director Joins Perspective Partners 

Terese Johnston joined Perspective Partners LLC as director of account development. 

An experienced health benefits executive, Johnston has worked multiple roles in her career, including member education, open enrollment, and enterprise-level lead generation and business development. She joined Perspective Partners committed to enhancing employee financial wellness. Johnston left her position as director of Enterprise Sales for HealthEquity and move to Perspective Partners.

“In my experience, employers want to do what is best for their employees,” Johnston says. “Bringing retirement and health benefits together in one platform is a win-win for both employers and their employees.”

Johnston will focus on the firm’s NestUp product line. 

NEXT: Lockton Adds Former Client Executive to Charlotte Office

Lockton’s retirement business has added another adviser to its ranks with the hire of 20-year industry veteran, Michelle Zevola, to its Charlotte, North Carolina, office. 

A former client executive at Transamerica, Zevola focused on the company’s largest and most complex retirement plans, and was recognized by independent rating services as one of the top relationship managers in the United States for five consecutive years. She has expertise consulting with employers on the complete spectrum of retirement benefits—defined contribution (DC), defined benefit (DB), and deferred compensation—and has done extensive work advising plan sponsors on the transition of benefits through mergers and acquisitions.

NEXT: Transamerica Promotes Industry Veteran After Announcing Mega-Market Expansion

Transamerica has announced plans to expand its focus on mega-market retirement plans with more than $1 billion in plan assets. To support this effort, the firm promoted industry veteran Thomas Kelly to the new position of director of mega-market retirement plan sales. Kelly will report to Chad Brown, vice president and managing director of large and mega market retirement sales. 

In his new role, Kelly will work with Transamerica’s distribution team to apply best practices when helping prospective plan sponsor clients evaluate Transamerica’s retirement plan solutions. He will also work directly with prospective clients to help tailor a retirement plan platform that best fits their retirement program’s needs and goals. 

“Transamerica has a service model that works well with the customized details that mega-market plans require,” says Brown. “Tom Kelly has specialized in retirement plans for over two decades, and understands the high level of service these sponsors demand. Tom’s unique expertise will be a tremendous benefit to the clients we serve.” 

 

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