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SURVEY SAYS: What Do You Think of the QDIA Regs?
This week I asked readers what they thought about the new, final regulations.
The most common response to this week’s survey (and yes, the extra day more than doubled the response rate) came from 28.7% who said that they hadn’t really had a chance to get into them, but liked what they had picked up. The overall response was, in fact, generally positive – but there were, of course, voices of “dissent.”
Roughly 25% of this week’s respondents had apparently gotten deeper than that – and of this number 15% liked what they had read, while 10% said they still had some questions – and just 2% said they had some problems. About 4.5% thought the DoL missed the boat by grandfathering stable value default investments already in place – but nearly twice that number (just short of 8% ) said they really appreciated that move. Roughly one in 10 admitted they hadn’t really picked up on the new regulations, and the remaining respondents went for “other.”
Striking a Balance
The surest sign that the final regulations were adept at striking a balanced solution could perhaps be found in the conflicting opinions as to whether the stable value industry had won or lost:
Grandfathering the stable value investment for existing accounts does not comply with PPA as written, or with its intent. It’s a cop-out. Very disappointing. I was actually hoping DOL would show have some backbone and make sure the final regulations complied with the intent of the law. That’s their job. I hope most investment advisors tell their clients to ignore the grandfather clause and invest default funds to provide for sustained growth.
It’s about time we get these regs and I am proud they stood up to the insurance agencies lobby
I think the DOL came to the “politically correct” solution, grandfathering in the past use of a stable value funds, but in reality, doing so is theoretically inconsistent with their approach going forward (and I’m happy that SVF’s aren’t a QDIA). Oh well. Who ever said the government needed to be consistent.
It’s interesting to see the Insurance lobby (traditionally very influential) lose on the stable value issue. They may be even more vulnerable when the upcoming fee and fee disclosure changes are made. Insurers have already changed some pricing – participants should benefit from the more reasonable margins that are being forced on to the insurance industry.
I understand that they want to encourage more aggressive investing, but I still don’t feel comfortable putting someone in a fund where they will incur losses without their permission. I don’t think this will be a popular piece of legislation with plan participants. I expect to hear alot of hollering when those that didn’t choose see losses on their quarterly statements.
I don’t understand this obsession with money market or stable value options as part of QDIA. If we live in that much fear of participant backlash in any declining market, maybe we should close the plan.
But this week’s Editor’s Choice goes to the reader who observed “112 pages???? I’ll wait for the summary by my favorite web site, hint, hint!”
In fact, we have provided a summary of the bill’s provisions – check out the Recommended Readings to the right here. Also it may be worth noting that while the document containing the final regulations is a relatively readable 112 pages – the final regulations are found in the last 10 pages or so. But I would recommend reading the whole thing – it’s a good, thoughtful explanation of much of the rationale behind the regulations – what they were asked to consider, what they chose to consider/change – and not.
Thanks to everyone who participated in our survey!
Grandfathering the stable value investment for existing accounts does not comply with PPA as written, or with its intent. It's a cop-out. Very disappointing. I was actually hoping DOL would show have some backbone and make sure the final regulations complied with the intent of the law. That's their job. I hope most investment advisors tell their clients to ignore the grandfather clause and invest default funds to provide for sustained growth.
F plus it's about time we get these regs and I am proud they stood up to the insurance agencies lobby
(b) haven't had a chance to really study them yet, but it looks pretty good at first blush
just reading the regs now
Stable value funds got more then what they deserved- the grandfather and the 120 safe harbor default HOWEVER, I spoke with FIDO yesterday and they can't handle a temporary 120 day plan default and then later default to the real default- an aged based target fund.
Still hoping we can auto enroll as of DAY 1 and not have to wait 30 days. what you wrote seems to imply that given the concurrent notice provision
F, of course. Otherwise all plan sponsors who used a money market or guaranteed income fund as a default investment all these years MIGHT see a little trouble.
It's interesting to see the Insurance lobby (traditionally very influential) lose on the stable value issue. They may be even more vulnerable when the upcoming fee and fee disclosure changes are made. Insurers have already changed some pricing - participants should benefit from the mor ereasonable amrgins that are being forced on to the insurance industry. |
I really feel that the Target/Lifecycle funds are still the most appropriate for the people that don't keep up on their investments in more situations than not. You can always find an unusual case that may not be the best but by and large they are better than the stable value. |
I wonder what kind of ripples this causes in the industry (e.g. the stable value fund book of business for companies that offer it, the effect on State statues for public plans, etc.)... |
I'm still trying to understand what it means that any fund material must be provided to the participant and the examples they gave. The example had fund statements and proxy material. Our participants haven't ever seen any fund proxy material since participants don't vote - only the committee votes. I sure hope this reg doesn't require they now get to vote, and if they don't vote why would would we provide the proxy materials? |
The problem I have is that the Labor Department has ignored the language of Section 404(c)(5) of ERISA which, at least in my copy, does not include the word "retirement" as a default fund objective, a simple word that could have been easily included if Congress had been so inclined. |
Do not meddle in the affairs of the DoL for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Does this mean that all plans will be offering the same option? |
As usual, it is apparent that they underestimate the effort to administer these rules. If they are to be effective in 60 days, there is no way possible for all plans to get the information, add the fund(s) needed and be able to offer them to new hires in that time frame. This should become effective 1-1-09. |
As usual, it is apparent that they underestimate the effort to administer these rules. If they are to be effective in 60 days, there is no way possible for all plans to get the information, add the fund(s) needed and be able to offer them to new hires in that time frame. This should become effective 1-1-09. |
I don't understand this obsession with money market or stable value options as part of QDIA. If we live in that much fear of participant backlash in any declining market, maybe we should close the plan. |
I understand that they want to encourage more aggressive investing, but I still don't feel comfortable putting someone in a fund where they will incur losses without their permission. I don't think this will be a popular piece of legislation with plan participants. I expect to hear alot of hollering when those that didn't choose see losses on their quarterly statements. o |
Should the grandfather effective date be some point AFTER the final regs are released. So they determine it is proper to review the Stable Value Issue, but they ignore the fact that plan sponsors are obviously not going to make any changes until after the final regs are released. |
I'm hopeful I will like them given the few summaries I have seen. |
This is going to cost plan sponsors additional money and financial advisors more time to choose a new default investment fund. While I agree with the decision to change the default investment fund I think it is time to put some responsibility on the individual participant to monitor their retirement account. |
I think the DOL came to the "politically correct" solution, grandfathering in the past use of a stable value funds, but in reality, doing so is theoretically inconsistent with their approach going forward (and I'm happy that SVF's aren't a QDIA). Oh well. Who ever said the government needed to be consistent. |
We changed our default investment option from a Stable Value to a Balanced Fund 7 years ago, and it has worked out very well for our plan participants. Although I don't necessarily agree with government telling employers what they can and can't do in providing benefits to their workforce, I do believe this is will have positive long term results for future retirees. |
Kudos to DOL for getting this right and not buckling under to lobbying efforts to include stable value. Every now and then, good public policy can still trump the "deep pockets." Future generations of retirees will benefit greatly from decision by DOL to hang tough on this issue. |
It's absurd that stable value was not included as a safe harbor investment. |
I kinda thought that they were out because of proliferation of general articles, but hadn't seen the final regs or even word that they had actually been released. |
Still feel that Stable Value should have been one of the options. There are some people who have no risk tolerence at all regardless of age, and a lot of them are the people that aren't in the plan, at least the Stable Value option won't lose them money. For the 25 year old employee who gets put in a lifecycle fund, and then leaves 6 months later at a bad market time and takes a loss on his money, this will not be a fun thing to explain. |
How come every time a new law is passed it takes years to "clarify" and "finalize" the details? Why can't they just write them clearly and completely in the first place? If I did such a half-assed job at my workplace, I'd be fired! |
112 pages???? I'll wait for the summary by my favorite web site, hint, hint! |